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Jesus, the Mithras and December 25th

27 Sep

Have you ever run across people who believe the apostles simply copied similarities from the Mithras religion in order to gain a following? Well, I have run across a few on the discussion forums, and they try to say the Christian faith is based upon this Persian religion that the Roman military popularized in the West. Well, it just isn’t so. There isn’t a shred of solid evidence to prove their case. For example, a few people have tried to tell me that the god, Mithras, was born on December 25th just like Christianity says about Jesus. Well, there are two obvious things wrong with their conclusion. First of all, the Mithraic scholarship of today is undecided about when Mithras was supposed to have been born, and, secondly, several pagan religions celebrated the birth of their god about this time of year. It is winter solstice, after all! So, even if it could be shown that Mithras was born at this time, what makes folks believe Christianity copied him?

In any case the whole matter is a farce, since one cannot show with the Bible that Jesus was born on or even near December 25th. His birth was simply not observed during the 1st century CE, so no matter what one concludes about Mithras and December 25th, it has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus in the 1st century CE.

Actually the implications of the Gospel narratives would lead one to believe Jesus was born in the fall, and, if one takes Revelation 12 into account, regarding the sign of the woman and the child in the heavens (Virgo), Jesus was born on the first day of the 7th month of the Hebrew calendar or the Feast of Trumpets.

So, the real question is: how did we come to observe December 25th as the birth of Jesus? Well, there are a lot of theories, but one that makes a lot of sense to me is that it was used as a vehicle to spread the Gospel after Constantine made Christianity the state religion. Many people were simply illiterate at that time, especially country folk, so how would one tell an illiterate world about Jesus and have one’s message remembered? Well, an easy method would be to ‘Christianize’ matters of their own religion and give the old symbols a new meaning. After all the first chapter of Romans tells us the at one time all men knew the truth about God, but we corrupted the truth in order to exclude the real God from our knowledge. Based upon this understanding, there would be some truth in any ancient pagan religion, but the amount of truth would be relative and corrupt. Now, before anyone tries to say that this would mean either Mithras or paganism had a significant effect upon Christianity, let me say that Christianity was already established long before the 4th century CE. The New Testament was already written, and after Constantine supposedly accepted the Christian faith, the Church sought a way to make the Gospel understandable to a basically illiterate world. They did what they could.

Did it happen this way? Well, it is a thought to consider, and it fits the context of history, but, admittedly, the idea is not cast in cement. The main point of this blog, however, is that neither the Mithras nor any other pagan religion had an influence upon the founding of the Christian faith or upon the writing of the New Testament.

Another idea concerning why we celebrate December 25th is that early Christians actually theorized that Jesus’ birth was probably about this time, and this site, Ancient and Future Catholics,  presents a good argument for that case. However, I do disagree with the idea of December 25th being the birth date of Christ, because I consider, as alluded to above, the Feast of Trumpets in the Jewish calendar to be the date of his birth. Nevertheless, this site presents a logical premise for why we began to celebrate December 25th.

The idea that our celebrating Christmas was copied from the Mithras religion and that our doing so represents a fundamental argument that the Apostles used symbols and ideas in that religion to sell Christ to the world is logically wrong and has absolutely no basis in fact.

 
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Posted by on September 27, 2010 in Christianity, Religion, Syncretism

 

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10 responses to “Jesus, the Mithras and December 25th

  1. Eddie

    September 28, 2010 at 18:56

    I have read about them, and I plan to have a post ready in the next day or two.

     
  2. Eddie

    September 28, 2010 at 18:55

    Ra, well you are partially correct here. I do say Jesus was correct and all the others were wrong. Stay tuned, because I plan to write more blogs about these gods in the coming days and weeks. However, your ‘discriminating’ reading may take you elsewhere, but if you wish to see the other side of this line people are handing you, stop by again.

     
  3. Eddie

    September 28, 2010 at 18:51

    If I read all the ‘recommended’ literature people suggest, I’d have no time for anything else. I choose what I read myself, but thank you for the suggestion. Concerning the 16 dying “Savior gods” I think someone is handing you a line, and you are not very discriminant in your reading habits or your conclusions.

     
  4. Eddie

    September 28, 2010 at 18:46

    Hello Ra. You make a lot of statements about Jesus and Christianity but you support nothing. Why should anyone believe you? Your commentary here is filled with derogatory remarks about Jesus and those who believe in him, yet with all of your pernicious statements, you don’t present a shred of evidence to show your claims that Jesus is a Copy Cat Savior or that those who believe him are brainwashed. What can I tell ‘ya, my friend? You seem to be parroting the web, but don’t give any addresses or support your claims with a **short** quote of any authority whatsoever. Be good and have fun. :-)

     
  5. ra

    September 28, 2010 at 15:13

    BY THE WAY i AM SURE IF YOU READ ABOUT THE EBIONITES , YOU WILL MAKE THEM LIERS AND U ARE TH ELIER AND LOOSER

     
  6. ra

    September 28, 2010 at 15:10

    ALSO NOT ONLY MITHRA HORUS DIONYSUS, BUDDHA KRISHAN , YOU WANT TO TELL ME ONLY JEUSS WAS RIGHT AND THEY WRERE WRONG . GO AND KEEP YOUR JESUS TO UNINTELLIGNET PEOPLE LIKE YOU

     
  7. ra

    September 28, 2010 at 15:09

    BY THE WAY READ CEASER’S CHRIST AND THE 16 DYING SAVIOR GODS..JEUS WAS A COPY CAT i MEAN YOUR JESUS THE FAKE GUY

     
  8. ra

    September 28, 2010 at 15:08

    LOLLLLLL STUPID LIES. THE EGYPTIANS, TH ESUEMRIANS WERE ALL THERE BEFORE CHRISTNIAYT, AND CHRISTIANITY STOLE FROM HELLENIZED RELIGIONS ABOTU DYING SAVIOR GODS… CHRISITNAITY IS THE FAKEST RELIGION AND EVERY OEN IS REALIZING THIS. ITS THE NEW PAGNA RELIGION

    YOU KNOW YOU PEOPLE ARE SO BRIANWASHED THAT U ARE TOO SDSTUPID TO UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH.. IF YOU READ ABOTU THE BUDDHA AND MANY MANY ANCEITN CIVILIZATIONS U WILL KNOW THE TRUTH THAT IS IF UR BRIAN ALLOWS U. BEC WE ARE L DIVIEN NOT ONLY YOUR JESUS. STOP PROMOTING UR MYTHICAL GOD TO THE WORLD TWISTIGN THINGS AROUND IN YOUR OWN WAY. CHRISTIANITY IS JSUT KNOT TRUE, NOT ONLY CHRITMAS BUT EASTER IS A PAGNA HARVEST HOLIDAY. JESUS REPRESENTS THE SUN GOD WHO ROSE FROMT HE DEAD LIEK THE SUN COMES OUT FROM ITS DARKNESS INTO THE SPRING SOLLICE
    THE VIRGIN MARY WAS NOT REAL THERY TALKED ABOTU MANY VIRGINS THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE . JESUS WAS A JEW AND HE WORSHIPPED GOD, AND i CONSIDER HIM A SLAVE OF GOD. i DON’T RELALY LIEK HIM. LOL IF JESUS OF THE BIBLE IS TRUE i HATE THSI MAN. IF I WAS THERE i WOULD HAVE TOLD HIM U ARE CRAZY. BUT THE TURE JESUS WAS AN ESSENE AND EH BELEIVED IN REINCANATION NOT UR STUPID DOGMAN OF ZOMBIES COMING UP FROM THE DEAD ON THE LAST DAY LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL RELALY U PEOPLE ARE TOO IGNROANT WHAT SHOULD i TELL YOU

     
  9. Eddie

    September 27, 2010 at 22:19

    Hi Ed, thank you for reading my blog and for taking the time to comment. I googled the book you mentioned. but the four pages I was permitted to read didn’t help me understand what you are trying to say here and how it applies to my blog. What is it that Mr. Perez says in his book that is at odds with what I have claimed above, and how does Mr. Perez support his claim in his book?

     
  10. Ed Wasson

    September 27, 2010 at 18:56

    I just read the book Time (Clocks, Calendars and Jesus’ Birth and Death dates) by Rick Perez. He supports his predictions very well.

     
 
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